LG: Is that what a lot of companies are doing now?
Kenber: It's shifting, but not nearly enough. There are still a lot of companies using more offsets than they should be, or not doing anything because they're confused and don't want to get it wrong. But if we're going to keep warming below 1.5 degrees Celsius, we have to reduce and remove as many emissions as fast as we can. That involves channeling finance to developing countries to help them take more ambitious climate action. Carbon markets are one part of that. LG: There is a lot of debate over what a "high quality" credit is. Is your group addressing this? Kenber: That is not something we are working on directly, because there are already two initiatives looking at this. The Integrity Council for the Voluntary Carbon Market, which originated with a task force set up by [former Bank of England governor] Mark Carney and [Standard Chartered CEO] Bill Winters. There also is the Article 6 supervisory board, the UN body charged with creating rules for carbon projects under the Paris Agreement. We will point to those and have some buyer-beware guidance. For example, only use a standard where independent third-party verification is required, has a registry that is independently managed and the public has access to. Make sure that when buying credits, there is full disclosure of who's benefiting from the proceeds. If companies are looking at credits from nature-based projects, do they respect the rights of local land owners? If companies are going to invest in carbon credits, they don't want to do something that's wrong or have their reputation trashed. LG: So what sets VCMI apart from those initiatives you just mentioned? Kenber: The Science-Based Targets initiative sets out what companies should do with their Scope 1, 2 and 3 emissions between now and 2050. There is not a lot of guidance on offsetting, or what's good practice in the short and medium term. The [Integrity Council for the Voluntary Carbon Market] and Article 6 supervisory board will look at what rules are needed to ensure that a credit is really backed by the reduction or removal of one ton of carbon, that it's permanent, and there is no leakage — as in if you retire a coal-fired power plant here, it's not just built somewhere else. What VCMI does is put those together. A company on its science-based pathway will still have emissions it can't eliminate. If it buys carbon credits to offset those emissions, our guidance will outline how they should do that and what they can say about it that's credible.
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