This interview has been edited for length and clarity. THE RECAST: You've decided not to seek reelection. This, despite the enormous powers of this office you've helped to build in an office of 700 employees. Why would you want to give that up? RACINE: Well, let me first say as D.C. 's first elected attorney general, and the second, I think our office, because of the hard work of lawyers and professionals, has really transformed the way in which that office is perceived. I want to emphasize here our goal has been to use the law to support and help vulnerable residents in D.C. That means Black, brown, and senior. It also means some white folks and others who are, frankly, on the lower end of the economic scale. And our goal has been to use the law to help them stand up for themselves and to create a more equitable D.C. Now, look, there is no doubt that I certainly love the job. Really proud of my colleagues and the standing that we have, not only locally, but also nationally. I did decide to step away from politics for a host of reasons, most especially, my little boy, whose name is Kareem. And, you know, it's …. my view that sometimes politicians stay around too long and that the people deserve change instead of entrenchment. THE RECAST: You came into office amidst this wave of reformist-minded prosecutors. I'm talking about Kim Foxx , the Cook County state's attorney; Larry Krasner in Philly; George Gascón, the Los Angeles district attorney; and the list goes on. At the time, there was a push to move away from the tough-on-crime approach employed in many big cities. Since the pandemic started, there seems to be outrage toward this reformist approach, with some arguing that these DAs aren't doing enough to tamp down violent crime in cities. Do you feel like this thinking has changed during your two terms in office? And is the criticism fair? RACINE: I start from the premise that the War on Crime that really got started when President Nixon came into power, and was fueled, of course, by the War on Drugs in the '80s, and '90s, had consequential and overwhelmingly negative impacts on the very communities that the "war" was to assist. That system resulted in mass incarceration, only paralleled by the likes of North Korea, Russia and China. And it falls disproportionately on the backs of the poor, the brown and the Black. So progressive prosecution, if you call it that…my philosophy and the philosophy of many of those friends who you mentioned, is that prosecution should be fair and just and it should be focused on objective data and principles around recidivism and rehabilitation. I think today is a hard day for reformers, but our argument is every bit as powerful. It's hard because of the media game. It's hard because of the political game. But…the objective data and facts strongly suggest that one can have a more fair and just system that actually enhances public safety by reducing recidivism, and empowering those communities that are impacted by crime. THE RECAST: Let's turn to the civil lawsuit that your office filed against folks associated with the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. First, though, your thoughts on what happened during a rally in Texas where the former president spoke of "radical, vicious, racist prosecutors" and also floated the idea of pardoning those who took part in the Jan. 6 insurrection. RACINE: Obviously, the former president is reckless. The former president loves to incite people to do dangerous things to our democratic principles. Exhibit A: look what happened on Jan. 6. And frankly, he's inspiring and acting and encouraging people to engage in violence against those who would dare to actually investigate him. I will refer you to a time when the president invited me to the White House and he praised my efforts to help get passed theFirst Step Act . So this is a president who will praise you when you act in a manner that is consistent with what he believes or wants. He will condemn you and even inspire people to harm you and your family when you disagree, and call him out for what he is: a threat to our democracy, and a proponent of violence for which, at the end of the day, he will never take responsibility for. |
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