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By Eric Geller

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Dmitri Alperovitch in 2017. | PopTech/Flickr

Welcome back to our regular Friday feature, The Future in Five Questions. Today, we have Dmitri Alperovitch, co-founder of the cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike and chairman of the think tank Silverado Policy Accelerator, whose insights into emerging technologies, foreign policy, and national security have made him a leading voice on issues ranging from Chinese cyberwarfare to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Responses have been edited for length and clarity.

What's one big underrated idea?

The threat of the Chinese invasion of Taiwan is an underappreciated risk by most people out there. China seems to be inching slowly but surely towards that goal, and we have not come to terms with it. Taiwan, specifically, has not come to terms with it and has not taken the necessary steps to make sure that that invasion never actually occurs.

So we need to get serious, [and] the Taiwanese need to get serious, because a war over Taiwan that inevitably will draw in the United States will change our entire world, even in a way that the Russian invasion of Ukraine has not.

What's a technology you think is overhyped?

It's blockchain. We're now 12 or 13 years since the invention of blockchain, and we're still waiting for any useful use cases where that technology can actually be applied to solve real-world problems. I'm not talking about cryptocurrency, which is still mostly a speculative asset.

Over the last decade, people were saying that this technology is going to be applied to solve all sorts of problems, from cybersecurity to real estate and financial markets. And the reality is that it hasn't done pretty much any of those things.

What book most shaped your conception of the future?

So there's a terrific book I read as a child — it's actually a play — called The Dragon by Soviet playwright Evgeny Schwartz. And it is an allegory, not unlike Animal Farm from [George] Orwell, that is written as a fairy tale, where you have a story of a knight called Lancelot that arrives into a town that is ruled by a brutal dragon, and he sets out to kill the dragon but finds that the population of this town that is ruled by this authoritarian dictator, the dragon, actually does not want the dragon to die and is resisting his efforts to slay it. And when he finally does, yet another dictator comes in to replace the slain dragon. And it's a powerful message about the power of totalitarianism and how many people around the world actually don't want freedom and are comfortable living under a brutal dictatorship as long as their most basic needs are still met.

What could government be doing regarding tech that it isn't?

It's really about semiconductors. We've made the right steps last month to invest in domestic semiconductor production to make sure that we're not losing this race in the most critical technology out there to China.

Semiconductors have often been called the new oil — the oil of the 21st century. I actually think that's a misguided characterization, because there are alternatives to oil. There is no alternative to chips. They're irreplaceable to the modern economy.

What we need to be doing, in addition to investing in domestic production — and our allies need to be doing the same — is working to also slow down China. The reality is that we cannot match Chinese levels of government investments, which is in the hundreds of billions of dollars. The CHIPS Act is only around $75 billion with tax breaks.

And we cannot match their capacity to produce workers to work cheaply in those plants.

But China today still relies on Western equipment technologies, without which it cannot build a single fab, no matter whether it's a fab for advanced chips or even legacy chips. And we need to look seriously at export controls to limit China's ability to procure that equipment.

There are two ways to win a race. One is to run faster than the adversary. The other is to slow them down. And we need to be doing both.

What has surprised you most this year?

It did not surprise me that Russia invaded, but the incompetence with which they they invaded did surprise me. They had an enormous advantage in fires and armor and manpower over Ukraine during those initial weeks, and they squandered it all because of the incompetence of their plan and the secrecy with which they planned this invasion, where their own troops weren't even told what was going to happen. And that doomed this war from the start.

 

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Janet Yellen speaks to employees after touring The Denver Mint in Denver, Colorado on March 11, 2022. | Jason Connolly/Getty Images via Pool

To get straight to the point: It's been a big 24 hours for crypto policy.

This morning the Biden administration released its official framework for how the government will deal with digital assets (meaning cryptocurrencies and the like) — a sweeping set of reports from various agencies aimed at cracking down on illegal activity in the industry, addressing consumer complaints and risks, integrating digital payments into the existing payment system, boosting research on digital assets, and setting goals for a potential central bank digital currency.

POLITICO's Sam Sutton took a closer look at the implications for American finance in today's Morning Money newsletter, noting that Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen indicated new regulations might be on the way for crypto assets, something regulators have so far avoided amid the crash. (The executive director of the Blockchain Association said in a statement the guidance is overly focused on risk, and a "missed opportunity to cement U.S. crypto leadership.")

There was also crypto action on the legislative side: Yesterday the Senate Agriculture Committee held its first hearing on a bill from Committee Chair Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) and Sen. John Boozman (R-Ark.) that would put crypto regulation under the purview of the CFTC. Crypto Council for Innovation CEO Sheila Warren told Sam (paywall) after the hearing that her organization is "generally supportive" of the measure, in keeping with the widespread perception that the CFTC would be a more favorable regulator for the industry. — Derek Robertson

 

On Wednesday, September 21, the McCourt Institute will host an exclusive event in NYC on "The Future of Digital Governance," to positively shape the next digital era and anticipate how tech will be regulated in the Web3 generation. It is part of the Unfinished Live festival and will feature transatlantic policymakers, academics, and other experts including Cedric O, Stefan Berger, Camille Canon, Jeremy West, Primavera de Filippi, Eric Salobir, POLITICO's Mark Scott and others for discussions on digital governance, the decentralized web, competition, privacy, content and more. Tune into the live stream beginning at 1:00 pm EST on September 21 on the McCourt Institute's website.

 
 
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FILE - In this Aug. 7, 2020, file photo, women wearing masks to prevent the spread of the coronavirus chat as they pass by the headquarters of ByteDance, owners of TikTok, in Beijing, China. TikTok's owner said Thursday, Sept. 24, 2020, that it has applied for a Chinese technology export license as it tries to complete a deal with Oracle and Walmart to keep the popular video app operating in the United States. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan, File)

ByteDance's headquarters in Beijing. | AP Photo/Ng Han Guan, File

More fodder for the device wars: Pico, the VR subsidiary of TikTok owner ByteDance, all but announced a new headset yesterday to compete with forthcoming efforts from rivals Meta and Sony.

The company's blog post making the announcement simply reads "The moment you've been waiting for is here!", teasing a "New Product Announcement" on Sept. 22 with a silhouette of a VR headset as an accompanying illustration. In July, Protocol reported the company had filed documents with the FCC related to the launch of a new headset.

The timing of the announcement is somewhat awkward, amid reports of sister company TikTok's being domineered by ByteDance and scrutiny of its data collection practices. Given the vast amounts of highly personal data collected by VR headsets, it's unlikely Pico will avoid similar skepticism of its independence from its Beijing-based parent company. — Derek Robertson

 

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The EU has drafted a legal proposal that would force AI companies to reveal technical information about their products if someone claims they've been harmed by them, as POLITICO's Gian Volpicelli and Samuel Stolton report for Pro subscribers.

They highlight three key new rules from the draft text:

  • A lower burden of proof for redress for AI damages, by which "national courts will be able to presume the AI caused the damage if it failed to comply with national or EU regulation or with the EU's incoming AI Act"
  • A standard of proportionality, where "Courts would also have to show their requests to disclose details about AI systems are proportionate, in particular, to avoid jeopardizing trade secrets"
  • The abandonment of a "strict liability" clause floated previously, wherein AI companies would always be responsible for damages caused by their products, without regard for fault or negligence

Gian and Samuel write that the draft rules "could change substantially before they are officially presented, which is expected to be on September 28." — Derek Robertson

 

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