DESANTIS STRIKES BACK — Gov. Ron DeSantis, a former star baseball player at Yale, clapped back at former President Donald Trump today with a classic taunt straight from the playing field — he pointed to the scoreboard. Following a weekend where Trump referred to him as “disloyal” and sought to dismiss DeSantis as a potential 2024 rival, the Florida Republican responded with a subtle dig that’s all but certain to get under Trump’s skin. Asked during a press conference about his one-time ally’s recent criticism, DeSantis pointed to the fact that he had been reelected to a second term — unlike, say, the former president. He didn’t mention Trump’s name. But he didn’t have to. “The good thing is, is that the people are able to render a judgment on that whether they reelect you or not. And I’m happy to say — you know in my case — not only did we win reelection, we won with the highest percentage of the vote that any Republican governor candidate has had in the history of the state of Florida,” he said. With DeSantis rising in Republican primary polls in advance of his expected 2024 bid, Nightly asked Matt Dixon, POLITICO’s Tallahassee-based Florida bureau chief, about the governor’s relationship with Trump and about the political confidantes who surround DeSantis. This interview has been edited. Donald Trump pointedly criticized DeSantis this past weekend during his early-state campaign foray, which suggests the former president views the governor as his toughest opposition in 2024. What is the relationship between the two camps? There functionally is none. There is some staff overlap between the two, as a handful of Trump aides previously worked for DeSantis. But as both camps prepare for what seems like an inevitable clash, any pre-existing friendly relationships have fallen apart. To the extent any relationship does exist, it’s one of bad blood. Both sides know they are the other’s biggest hurdle to getting the Republican nomination, and the quiet insults have started to fly. That dynamic is amplified at times because key staffers have worked with each other in the past and have had personal relationships. Both do share one thing in common: dishing to the press. As the tensions between Trump and DeSantis have seeped more into public view, there have been an increasing number of calls from both camps that start with “is off the record ok?” Those calls generally focus on planting seeds with reporters about perceived weaknesses or missteps. DeSantis seems to be generating an unusually high amount of buzz among the GOP grassroots. What has he said to date about his presidential aspirations? Has he explicitly said anything about his intention to run for president in 2024? DeSantis has been militant in brushing off questions about his 2024 aspiration. Though most of his public policy decisions are geared towards energizing the national conservative base rather than focusing on Florida-specific problems, he reacts with his well-known brand of condescension when reporters ask about whether he is considering a run for president. His team is also very disciplined in this regard. For the most part, even in background conversations with DeSantis adivers, they generally frame things as though DeSantis is still making up his mind, or nothing is a foregone conclusion. What can you tell us about the size and composition of his inner political circle? Is it a disciplined operation or more chaotic and fluid like Trump World? What traits does DeSantis value in his team? DeSantis’ inner circle remains very small, and is significantly more disciplined than that of Trump World. DeSantis has a very good internal political radar, and nothing he does is by accident. His messaging, the fights he chooses to pick, and the fights he chooses not to pick are all very strategic and calculated. Part of that comes with having a generally small inner circle, especially for someone plotting out a potential presidential bid. DeSantis in the past, including going back to his days in Congress, has had a reputation for not being loyal, and routinely firing staff and campaign consultants. The team he had in place for the 2022 midterms, however, is expected to make up the core of a potential presidential run. The governor’s communications staffers are known for their confrontational, pugilistic style. Is that a fair assessment? Is that something he encourages? Calling them confrontational does a disservice to the word confrontational. Under DeSantis, the institution of public communications has been upended. It previously was an area that always had some healthy tension between reporters and communications staff, but now the creation of tension is the point, as opposed to an occasional byproduct. DeSantis’ communications team has openly boasted about how it’s not their job to help members of the media, and are well known for taking screenshots of reporter questions and posting them on Twitter, a habit that only makes the relationship worse. Stories that they disagree with often end up as standalone headlines on right-wing websites or Fox News, and then will be endlessly retweeted and circulated by the community of Twitter trolls they have helped cultivate. What role does DeSantis’ wife, Casey, play in his operation? What is her public profile like? Casey DeSantis is the top adviser, most trusted voice, and architect behind much of her husband’s policy and political decision making. She is widely regarded as the most powerful First Lady in Florida history, and has been given a larger and public policy portfolio that most notably includes heading up the administration’s mental health initiatives. Fill in the blank here. In Tallahassee, DeSantis’ inner circle has a reputation for being _______. Insular. Welcome to POLITICO Nightly. Reach out with news, tips and ideas at nightly@politico.com. Or contact tonight’s author at cmahtesian@politico.com or on Twitter at @PoliticoCharlie.
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